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Sunday, January 18, 2009

Midianites-Saudi Arabians


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All verses with the key words MIDIA, MIDIAN, MIDIANITE, MIDIANITISH, JETHRO, ZIPPORAH
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I will include all verses with these key words so you can look in the context to find any thing I may have missed or a particular bit of info you are looking for.
What I highlighted with colored text is things I found interesting.
SAUDI ARABIANS / MIDIANITES
Deuteronomy 21:10-13 When you go to war and see a beautiful woman... bring her home .. shave her head, and pare her nails.. shall remain in your house, and bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after that thou shall go take her to bed and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife.
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NUMBERS 031009` And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives.. and the booty of the battle consisted of (35). And thirty and two thousand of women that had not known man by lying with him.
01~GENESIS 025001` Then again Abraham took a wife, and her name was Keturah
01~GENESIS 025002` And she bare him Zimran, and Jokshan, and Medan, and Midian, and Ishbak, and Shuah.
You could assume that the Midianites were descendants of Abraham/Keturah by the name, but by this time in history there were millions of people. You would then have to assume that every one had a different first name .. only first names are given.

Being a descendant of Abraham does not make any tribe Israelites or friends of the Israelites. Both the Midianites and Edomites were the enemies of the Israelites and fought against them.
01~GENESIS 025004` And the sons of Midian; Ephah, and Epher, and Hanoch, and Abida, and Eldaah. All these were the children of Keturah.
01~GENESIS 036035` And Husham died, and Hadad the son of Bedad, who smote Midian in the field of Moab, reigned in his stead: and the name of his city was Avith.

Is this Midian the son of Keturah? This event took place in Moab/Jordan which is not in the land of Midia.

01~GENESIS 037028` Then there passed by Midianites merchantmen; and they drew and lifted up Joseph out of the pit, and sold Joseph to the Ishmeelites for twenty pieces of silver: and they brought Joseph into Egypt.
This is a little abstract.. The Midianites passed by but Joseph was sold to the Ishmeelites (Jishmaelite or descendant of Jishmael)
Ishmelites vs Ishmaelites .. Jishmael is the name of Abraham's oldest son so I guess these were Ishmaelites.
01~GENESIS 037036` And the Midianites sold him into Egypt to Potiphar, an officer of Pharaoh's, and captain of the guard.
02~EXODUS 002016` Now the priest of Midian had seven daughters: and they came and drew water, and filled the troughs to water their father's flock.

The priest of Midian (Jethro) was a goyim
. The word goyim does not identify what one is.
The word goyim identifies what one is not. Goyim = NOT a descendant of Israel.
While the daughters of Jethro were drawing water some other herdsmen came and tried to take the water. Moses appears to have gotten in a fight with the herdsmen and when the Midianite girls got home, they told their father.
Exodus 2:19 And they said, An Egyptian delivered us out of the hand of the shepherds, and also drew water enough for us, and watered the flock.
Of course by nationality Moses was indeed an Egyptian and by birth he would have had one or more Egyptian grandmother. When the Israelite grandchildren of Jacob entered Egypt, there were 53 grandchildren, 52 of them were males, so unless 52 males produced their descendant with one Israelite cousin, of course the Israelites began with Egyptian grandmothers.
As for the ONLY grand daughter, her mother was no Israelite. She (like Ishmael) was the daughter of a servant girl.
02~EXODUS 002021` And Moses was content to dwell with the man: and he gave Moses Zipporah his daughter.
The first wife of Moses was a Midianite (ancient Saudi Arabian) and Moses second wife was a Cushite = the nation that began in southern Egypt and extended into modern day Sudan.
02~EXODUS 003001` Now Moses kept the flock of Jethro his father in law, the priest of Midian: and he led the flock to the backside of the desert, and came to the mountain of God, even to Horeb.

Jethro NON Israelite was a priest of God who gave Moses advice on how to judge the Israelites.

While tending the flocks of his father in law (Jethro) Moses encountered God at the burning bush in Mt. Horeb -- Mt. Horeb = Mt Sinia?
02~EXODUS 004018` And Moses went and returned to Jethro his father in law, and said to him, Let me go, I pray you, and return to my brethren which are in Egypt, and see whether they be yet alive. And Jethro said to Moses, Go in peace.
02~EXODUS 004019` And the Lord said to Moses in Midian, Go, return into Egypt: for all the men are dead which sought thy life.
02~EXODUS 004025` Then Zipporah took a sharp stone, and cut off the foreskin of her son, and cast it at his feet, and said, Surely a bloody husband art you to me. Here God was going to kill Moses for some abstract reason?
02~EXODUS 018001` When Jethro, the priest of Midian, Moses' father in law, heard of all that God had done for Moses, and for Israel his people, and that the Lord had brought Israel out of Egypt;
02~EXODUS 018002` Then Jethro, Moses' father in law, took Zipporah, Moses' wife, after he had sent her back,
02~EXODUS 018005` And Jethro, Moses' father in law, came with his sons and his wife to Moses into the wilderness, where he encamped at the mount of God:
02~EXODUS 018006` And he said to Moses, I thy father in law Jethro am come to you, and thy wife, and her two sons with her.
While Moses was a descendant of Egyptians and other non Israelites, his two sons were descendants of Midianites (ancient Saudi Arabians).
02~EXODUS 018009` And Jethro rejoiced for all the goodness which the Lord had done to Israel, whom he had delivered out of the hand of the Egyptians.
02~EXODUS 018010` And Jethro said, Blessed be the Lord, who hath delivered you out of the hand of the Egyptians, and out of the hand of Pharaoh, who hath delivered the people from under the hand of the Egyptians.
02~EXODUS 018012` And Jethro, Moses' father in law, took a burnt offering and sacrifices for God: and Aaron came, and all the elders of Israel, to eat bread with Moses' father in law before God.
Of course non Israelites sacrificed burnt offerings to God .. Abraham, Noah are examples.
04~NUMBERS 010029` And Moses said to Hobab, the son of Raguel the Midianite, Moses' father in law, We are journeying to the place of which the Lord said, I will give it you: come you with us, and we will do you good: for the Lord hath spoken good concerning Israel.

Here a Midianite got the invitation to go to the promise land with Moses and the gang.

04~NUMBERS 022004` And Moab said to the elders of Midian, Now shall this company lick up all that are round about us, as the ox licketh up the grass of the field. And Balak the son of Zippor was king of the Moabites at that time.
Here begins the accounts of the events that lead to the mass murder of the Midianites.
04~NUMBERS 022007` And the elders of Moab and the elders of Midian departed with the rewards of divination in their hand; and they came to Balaam, and spoke to him the words of Balak.
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Could this woman have been murdered because she worshipped idols or was she killed because non Israelites were not allowed in the congregation?
If one was not allowed in the congregation for idol worship, I guess Aaron would not be allowed, you know the guy who made the golden calf.
04~NUMBERS 025006
6. And, behold, one of the children of Israel came and brought unto his brethren a Midianitish woman in the sight of Moses, and in the sight of all the congregation of the children of Israel, who were weeping before the door of the tabernacle of the congregation.
7. And when Phinehas, the son of Eleazar, the son of Aaron the priest, saw it, he rose up from among the congregation, and took a javelin in his hand;
8. And he went after the man of Israel into the tent, and thrust both of them through, the man of Israel, and the woman through her belly. So the plague was stayed from the children of Israel.
9. And those that died in the plague were twenty and four thousand.
10. And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,
11. Phinehas, the son of Eleazar, the son of Aaron the priest, hath turned my wrath away from the children of Israel, while he was zealous for my sake among them, that I consumed not the children of Israel in my jealousy.
14. Now the name of the Israelite that was slain, even that was... Zimri, the son of Salu, a prince of a chief house among the Simeonites.
15. And the name of the Midianitish woman that was slain was Cozbi, the daughter of Zur; he was head over a people, and of a chief house in Midian.
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04~NUMBERS 025017` Vex the Midianites, and smite them:
04~NUMBERS 025018` For they vex you with their wiles, where with they have beguiled you in the matter of Peor, and in the matter of Cozbi, the daughter of a prince of Midian, their sister, which was slain in the day of the plague for Peor's sake.
04~NUMBERS 031002` Avenge the children of Israel of the Midianites: afterward shalt you be gathered to thy people.
04~NUMBERS 031003` And Moses spoke to the people, saying, Arm some of yourselves to the war, and let them go against the Midianites, and avenge the Lord of Midian.

If Midianites were grandchildren of Abraham and Keturah, being a descendant of Abraham did not make one an Israelite. Here the Israelites were commanded to wipe them out.

04~NUMBERS 031007` And they warred against the Midianites, as the Lord commanded Moses; and they slew all the males.
04~NUMBERS 031008` And they slew the kings of Midian, beside the rest of them that were slain; namely, Evi, and Rekem, and Zur, and Hur, and Reba, five kings of Midian: Balaam also the son of Beor they slew with the sword.
04~NUMBERS 031009` And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives, and their little ones, and took the spoil of all their cattle, and all their flocks, and all their goods.
Moses commanded the Israelites not to keep the live stock and other goodies. When he found out they did, there was a big conflict.
How many Midianite babes did the Israelites keep for the sack?
31. And Moses and Eleazar the priest did as the Lord commanded Moses.
32. And the booty, being...
35. And thirty and two thousand persons in all, of women that had not known man by lying with him.

What was the command on the subject of women when fighting enemies?
Deuteronomy 21:10-13
10. When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the Lord thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive,
11. And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife;
12. Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house, and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails;
13. And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in thine house, and bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after that thou shalt go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife.
Before the Israelites entered into Egypt all mothers were NON Israelites they were composed of Syrians/Armenians, Cannanite and Egyptian mothers.
On their way to the promise land, they added another batch of non Israelite women (Midianites/Ancient Saudis) to create the clans of the Israelites.

As for all the baby males, little boys, married sisters, fathers, mothers of the 32,000 kidnaped Midinate girls they were all murdered.

Numbers 31
17. Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
18. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

06~JOSHUA 013021` And all the cities of the plain, and all the kingdom of Sihon king of the Amorites, which reigned in Heshbon, whom Moses smote with the princes of Midian, Evi, and Rekem, and Zur, and Hur, and Reba, which were dukes of Sihon, dwelling in the country.
07~JUDGES 006001` And the children of Israel did evil in the sight of the Lord: and the Lord delivered them into the hand of Midian seven years.
When the Israelites egaged in their gross evil, the Lord delievered them to the Midianites for 7 years. Of course the Midianite men had their turn of going to the sack with the Israelite women ... to add still more of that good Midianite/Saudia Arabian DNA into the Israelite clans.
07~JUDGES 006002` And the hand of Midian prevailed against Israel: and because of the Midianites the children of Israel made them the dens which are in the mountains, and caves, and strong holds.
07~JUDGES 006003` And so it was, when Israel had sown, that the Midianites came up, and the Amalekites, and the children of the east, even they came up against them;
07~JUDGES 006006` And Israel was greatly impoverished because of the Midianites; and the children of Israel cried to the Lord.
07~JUDGES 006007` And it came to pass, when the children of Israel cried to the Lord because of the Midianites,

OK the Israelites turn to win the battles again.
Gideon, tribe of Manasseh.. from Joseph.. the tribe that came out of the womb of the Egyptian girl Asenath.
07~JUDGES 006011` And there came an angel of the Lord, and sat under an oak which was in Ophrah, that pertained to Joash the Abiezrite: and his son Gideon threshed wheat by the winepress, to hide it from the Midianites.
07~JUDGES 006014` And the Lord looked upon him, and said, Go in this thy might, and you shalt save Israel from the hand of the Midianites: have not I sent you?
07~JUDGES 006016` And the Lord said to him, Surely I will be with you, and you shalt smite the Midianites as one man.
07~JUDGES 006033` Then all the Midianites and the Amalekites and the children of the east were gathered together, and went over, and pitched in the valley of Jezreel.
07~JUDGES 007001` Then Jerubbaal, who is Gideon, and all the people that were with him, rose up early, and pitched beside the well of Harod: so that the host of the Midianites were on the north side of them, by the hill of Moreh, in the valley.
07~JUDGES 007002` And the Lord said to Gideon, The people that are with you are too many for me to give the Midianites into their hands, lest Israel vaunt themselves against me, saying, Mine own hand hath saved me.
07~JUDGES 007007` And the Lord said to Gideon, By the three hundred men that lapped will I save you, and deliver the Midianites into yours hand: and let all the other people go every man to his place.
07~JUDGES 007008` So the people took victuals in their hand, and their trumpets: and he sent all the rest of Israel every man to his tent, and retained those three hundred men: and the host of Midian was beneath him in the valley.
07~JUDGES 007012` And the Midianites and the Amalekites and all the children of the east lay along in the valley like grasshoppers for multitude; and their camels were without number, as the sand by the sea side for multitude.
07~JUDGES 007013` And when Gideon was come, behold, there was a man that told a dream to his fellow, and said, Behold, I dreamed a dream, and, lo, a cake of barley bread tumbled into the host of Midian, and came to a tent, and smote it that it fell, and overturned it, that the tent lay along.
07~JUDGES 007014` And his fellow answered and said, This is nothing else save the sword of Gideon the son of Joash, a man of Israel: for into his hand hath God delivered Midian, and all the host.
07~JUDGES 007023` And the men of Israel gathered themselves together out of Naphtali, and out of Asher, and out of all Manasseh, and pursued after the Midianites.
07~JUDGES 007024` And Gideon sent messengers throughout all mount Ephraim, saying, Come down against the Midianites, and take before them the waters to Bethbarah and Jordan. Then all the men of Ephraim gathered themselves together, and took the waters to Bethbarah and Jordan.
07~JUDGES 007025` And they took two princes of the Midianites, Oreb and Zeeb; and they slew Oreb upon the rock Oreb, and Zeeb they slew at the winepress of Zeeb, and pursued Midian, and brought the heads of Oreb and Zeeb to Gideon on the other side Jordan.
07~JUDGES 008001` And the men of Ephraim said to him, Why hast you served us thus, that you calledst us not, when you wentest to fight with the Midianites? And they did chide with him sharply.
07~JUDGES 008003` God hath delivered into your hands the princes of Midian, Oreb and Zeeb: and what was I able to do in comparison of you? Then their anger was abated toward him, when he had said that.
07~JUDGES 008012` And when Zebah and Zalmunna fled, he pursued after them, and took the two kings of Midian, Zebah and Zalmunna, and discomfited all the host.
07~JUDGES 008026` And the weight of the golden earrings that he requested was a thousand and seven hundred shekels of gold; beside ornaments, and collars, and purple raiment that was on the kings of Midian, and beside the chains that were about their camels' necks.
07~JUDGES 008028` Thus was Midian subdued before the children of Israel, so that they lifted up their heads no more. And the country was in quietness forty years in the days of Gideon.
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11~1_KINGS 011018` And they arose out of Midian, and came to Paran: and they took men with them out of Paran, and they came to Egypt, to Pharaoh king of Egypt; which gave him an house, and appointed him victuals, and gave him land.
13~1_CHRONICLES 001032` Now the sons of Keturah, Abraham's concubine: she bare Zimran, and Jokshan, and Medan, and Midian, and Ishbak, and Shuah. And the sons of Jokshan; Sheba, and Dedan.
13~1_CHRONICLES 001033` And the sons of Midian; Ephah, and Epher, and Henoch, and Abida, and Eldaah. All these are the sons of Keturah.
13~1_CHRONICLES 001046` And when Husham was dead, Hadad the son of Bedad, which smote Midian in the field of Moab, reigned in his stead: and the name of his city was Avith.
19~PSALMS 083009` Do to them as to the Midianites; as to Sisera, as to Jabin, at the brook of Kison:
23~ISAIAH 010026` And the Lord of hosts shall stir up a scourge for him according to the slaughter of Midian at the rock of Oreb: and as his rod was upon the sea, so shall he lift it up after the manner of Egypt.
23~ISAIAH 060006` The multitude of camels shall cover you, the dromedaries of Midian and Ephah; all they from Sheba shall come: they shall bring gold and incense; and they shall shew forth the praises of the Lord.
35~HABAKKUK 003007` I saw the tents of Cushan in affliction: and the curtains of the land of Midian did tremble.
Exodus 2:21 Moses was given the Midianite wife Zipporah who produced Gershom and Eliezer. These two descendants of ancient Saudis/Midianites were of course leaders in the tribes of the Israelites.
We can trace the descendants of Moses' sons to add to descendants of the Midianites in the tribes of Israel, then we can add in the multitude of Midianite descendants in the tribes of Israel produced from the 32,000 kidnapped Midianite chicks.






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